USA Short Track Trials Updates

Women Total Points *UNOFFICIAL*

Men Total Points *UNOFFICIAL*

 

Update 9/16/2009

There seems to be a lot of emails asking about why the distance classification was used instead of the overall classification for the selection process in regards to the US team selection.  I’m here to clarify this.

 

Let me be very clear about this:  The distance classification has more importance because when it comes to the Olympics, you don’t win a medal for your overall classification.  

Just because you win more events, does not mean you get a medal for top three overall.  There is no top three for overall classification.  It’s GOLD, SILVER, or BRONZE in the 1500m, 1000m, 500m, and the relay.  If there actually was an overall classification, Ahn Hyun-Soo and Jin Sun-Yu of South Korea would have gotten a fourth gold medal from Torino 2006 hands down.  The format for the Olympics is entirely different. 

 

Another thing I want to clarify is that the team selected at US Trials was only selected to go to the World Cups.  They are NOT the final team going to the Olympics.  It’s not winning a spot at Trials and BAM onto the Olympic team.  It doesn’t work that way.  The skaters selected are only nominated to skate the World Cups.  Just as I explained during my coverage of the Canadian Trials, the skaters being sent will have to try to qualify for their individual spots in Montreal (World Cup 3) and Marquette (World Cup 4).  Each country can still send six athletes in both genders, but in terms of the final Olympic team, that remains to be determined.

 

Each country can earn a MAXIMUM of three skaters for individual distances.  There is NO minimum.  From what I can understand, if let’s say the United States earns three skaters for ALL three distances, the breakdown as follows in order:

 

Men

500m – Apolo Ohno, Jordan Malone, Simon Cho

1000m – Apolo Ohno, Travis Jayner, JR Celski

1500m – Apolo Ohno, JR Celski, Jordan Malone

 

Women

500m – Alyson Dudek, Katherine Reutter, Lana Gehring

1000m – Katherine Reutter, Kimberly Derrick, Allison Baver

1500m – Katherine Reutter, Allison Baver, Kimberly Derrick

 

This is only if the United States qualifies for three skaters for all three distances.  Let’s try a different scenario.  Let’s say the United States only qualifies for….out of the extreme…ONE spot for all three distances.  What happens now?  Who gets to skate?

 

Men

500m – Apolo Ohno

1000m – Apolo Ohno

1500m – Apolo Ohno

 

Based on this scenario, Apolo Ohno is the only skater that gets to skate.  Why?  He gets to skate because he won the distance classification for all three distances.  This is why distance classification is more important for US Trials selection.  Therefore, he gets priority to skate above any other male skater.  The rest of the guys don’t get to skate because United States didn’t qualify for more spots in those distances.  If the US qualifies for a second spot in, let’s say, the 500m, then the second place skater from the 500m at Trials gets to skate. (Jordan Malone)  

 

Women

500m – Alyson Dudek

1000m – Katherine Reutter

1500m – Katherine Reutter

 

For the women, only Alyson and Katherine get the skate.  Alyson won the 500m overall, and Katherine won the 1000m + 1500m overall.  Derrick, Baver, and Gehring would not skate at all. 

 

In essence, the final Olympic team, based on this scenario, would only be Ohno, Dudek, and Reutter for individual distances.  Oh and don’t forget the US needs to qualify for the relay too.  Canada does not need to qualify for the relay since they are the host country.

 

I hope this helps people understand the process.  After World Cups 3 and 4, we will know what spots the US has qualified for, and which skaters will actually get to skate their individual distances.  Skating at the Olympics all rests in the hands of the skaters.  If you thought US trials was competitive, just wait until you see World Cups 3 and 4.  It’s LITERALLY going to be DO or DIE and I expect to see some high risk passing.  I just pray that there are no injuries like we had at Trials.  

 

Update 9/13/2009

Before heading out to the airport, I wanted to visit JR at the hospital.  When I showed up, JR wanted to immediately see his crash and I showed him.  The injury isn’t that bad as we thought.  He has a cut six inches long and two inches deep.  He just cut some muscle tissue and is expected to make a full recovery.  The doctor said he should be back on the ice within a month.  He’s definitely going to miss the World Cups in Beijing and Seoul.  He’s probably not going to skate Montreal and Marquette either but at least he will be in attendance.  He’s out of the hospital tomorrow and will immediately begin physical therapy. 

 

I also saw Maria at the airport and she seems to be fine.  CAT scan came out negative and she did cut her tongue.  I’m just glad everyone was ok. 

 

I also want to give a shout out to Walter Rusk for his quick thinking and fast reaction to assisting JR when he cut himself during his crash.  There was so much blood on the ice and Walter used his shirt to put on pressure to stop the bleeding.

 

US Team heading to the World Cups

Men: Apolo Ohno, JR Celski*, Jordan Malone, Travis Jayner, Simon Cho

Women: Katherine Reutter, Alyson Dudek, Kimberly Derrick, Allison Baver, Lana Gehring*

*because JR Celski is currently injured and we can still send six skaters, Jeff Simon and Anthony Lobello will be skating with the men and Jessica Smith with be the sixth skater for the women

 

Update 9/13/2009 2:22AM EST

Ok.  A lot of people have been asking questions as to how Simon Cho came in sixth overall and still be on the team when Jeff Simon came in fifth overall. I’m going to explain it to you right now.

 

Now, there is a distance classification (500m, 1000m, 1500m) and an overall classification.  You get a spot on the team if you win a distance classification.  You also get a spot if you win overall classification.  If the same person wins all three distance classifications and is also the overall winner, then you start moving to second place positions, and then third place positions until you fill the team.  Now onto the questions for the men’s side:

 

Who won the 500m overall?  Apolo Ohno.

Who won the 1000m overall?  Apolo Ohno.

Who won the 1500m overall?  Apolo Ohno.

Who is the overall winner?  Apolo Ohno.

 

So with one spot filled, we now move towards the second place points overall.

 

Who won second overall in the 1500m?  JR Celski, so that’s spot #2.

Who won second overall in the 1000m?  Travis Jayner, that’s spot #3.

Who won second overall in the 500m? Jordan Malone, that’s spot #4.

 

Now we have four spots filled.  We move towards third place points overall.

 

Who won third overall in the 1500m? Jordan Malone.  He’s already on the team.

Who won third overall in the 1000m? JR Celski.  He’s also already on the team.

Who won third overall in the 500m?  Simon Cho.  Here is your 5th spot. 

 

The overall classification points are just used as a tie-breaker.  It is NOT used to select team members.  YES, I know it’s confusing but this is what I know and how it was explained to me.  This is why Jeff Simon is not on the team.

 

Same thing with the women here.

 

Who won the 1500m overall?  Katherine Reutter.

Who won the 1000m overall?  Katherine Reutter.

Who won the 500m overall?  Alyson Dudek.  So that’s spot two.

 

Who won second overall in the 1500m?  Allison Baver.  That’s spot three.

Who won second overall in the 1000m? Kimberly Derrick.  That’s spot four.

Who won second overall in the 500m? Katherine Reutter.  No change in spots.

 

Who won third overall in the 1500m?  Kimberly Derrick.  No change in spots.

Who won third overall in the 1000m?  Allison Baver.  No change in spots.

Who won third overall in the 500m?  Lana Gehring.  That’s spot five.

 

You can click on the overall points on top to double check me if you want.  I’ll update my blog later during the day for today’s events.  I’m dead tired and still need to pack.

 

Update 9/12/2009 6:05pm

Based on total points so far, Apolo Ohno, JR Celski, Katherine Reutter and Alyson Dudek have their spots pretty much locked in to head to the World Cups.  The big competition now is between Malone, Jayner, Cho and Jeff Simon for the men, and Derrick, Gehring, Baver, and Jessica Smith for the women.  I don’t think the other skaters will make a dent on the overall scores. 

 

I think Alyson Dudek has her 500m distance classification set.  The only contenders are Reutter, Derrick and GehringDudek needs to only finish 4th between those women and she would win it for the 500m.   For the men in the 500m, it’s open between Ohno, Celski, Malone and Cho. 

 

I’m not to sure about the 1000m + 1500m distance classification since they are count towards each other.  We will soon find out at the end of the day.

 

Just watch for my tweets.

 

Update 9/12/2009

Apolo maybe 27 years old, but he still has what it takes to take out the young skaters!  Katherine Reutter also made it look too easy!  With the conclusion of the 1000m (1) and 1500m (2), Apolo Ohno and Katherine Reutter have taken gold in both distances!

 

In the 1000m (1), Ohno came in 1st, then Celski, Jeff Simon, Simon Cho, and Robert Lawrence.  Ryan Bedford was disqualified for impeding against Jeff Simon in the last lap, and Jordan Malone was disqualified for cross-tracking against Bedford at the line.  In the Men’s 1500m (2), it was Ohno, Jayner, Celski, Malone and Lobello

 

For the Women’s 1000m (1), Katherine Reutter came in first, followed by Dudek, Baver, and Gehring.  Kimberly Derrick was disqualified for impeding against Dudek, even though I felt the inside pass was good.  In the Women’s 1500m (2), once again Katherine Reutter came in 1st, followed by Baver, Derrick, Dudek, Smith, and Gehring.


Details of the races as follows:

 

Men’s 1000m Heat 2 – Eddy Alvarez was disqualified for impeding against Lobello by trying to make an inside pass.  On the straightaway are the start of the last lap, Jayner’s left skate collided with Eddy’s right skate to cause him to fall.

 

Men’s 1000m Semi 3 – Bedford impeded against Lobello at the start of the last lap, causing him to skate off track.  Bedford then stopped skating as exited the corner, only to collide with his blades against Jayner causing himself to fall.  Lobello was advanced.

 

Men’s 1000m Final D – Now I don’t know if he did this on purpose, but Robert Lawrence toed into the ice right after the gun on his second step and went Superman for a little bit. He was able to catch up later.

 

Men’s 1000m Final C – Simon Cho was a bit unstable when he tried to push on his right during a crossover to make a pass on lap 4 causing him to fall on the straightaway, hit the pads and spin around trying to get back up.

 

Men’s 1000m Final A – There was a lot of positioning among the skaters.  JR Celski was leading the race up until lap 4 when Ohno went for the inside.  Ohno definitely kept on looking behind to see what was going on.  He definitely kept on deep tracking JR Celski and putting his hand down earlier during his pivots.  At the end of lap 3, you can see Jordan Malone building a TON of speed because he started picking up on Ohno’s deep tracking.  Jordan then took his chances and entered the corner tight, to slip by ALL three skaters in front of him (Celski, Jayner and Lobello) to take the second spot.  It was one of the most amazing passes I’ve seen so far at this meet.  Ohno felt Jordan’s push behind him and immediately picked up the pace.  Since Malone had to exit super wide to compensate, Jayner immediately took the inside on Malone to take second place.  At the last lap, JR Celski made an inside pass on Jordan Malone to take third place away.  Based on the footage, JR was so damn low on the ice during the pivot it was amazing.  Ohno crossed the line and celebrated his win by clinching his right fist in the air.

 

Women’s 1000m Semi 3 – On the last lap, Jessica Smith tried to go on the outside to pass Alyson Dudek.  As they entered the corner, Dudek slips with her right skate, falls and takes out Jessica Smith with her.  Jessica Smith was DQ’d for impeding for some reason.

 

Women’s 1000m Final D – Tamara Frederick made a bad inside pass on the last lap and took out Erin Bartlett.  It was such a bad pass.  Frederick slammed into the pads shoulders first and broke her collar bone.  Bartlett then slammed in right behind her.  They both were down for the count.  The race was stopped and both Frederick and Bartlett did not reskate so Maria Garcia won by default.

 

Men’s 1500m Semi 1 – Eddy Alvarez was DQ’d for impeding against Jeff Simon causing Simon to fall.  He was advanced.  On the last corner, Lobello made a desperate attempt to go on the inside to pass Alvarez only to fall, spin, and hit the pads backwards feet first. 

 

Men’s 1500m Semi 2 – Chris Creveling impeded Charles Ryan Leveille to cause him to fall.

 

Today will be the last day of racing.  I’ll update this page later on today to discuss points.

 

Update 9/10/2009

Day 2 of racing was super crazy! 

 

In the Men’s 1500m Final A, JR Celski was an unstoppable force.  He had such a large gap that he just glided pass the finish line in celebration while Ohno and Malone fought for that second spot.  Ohno ended up edging Malone at the line.  In the Women’s 1500m Final A, Reutter was able to hold off the rest of the pack to clinch the win followed by Baver and Derrick.

 

In the Men’s 500m Final A, Simon Cho came in for the win for 1st followed by Ohno and Jeff Simon for third.  JR Celski was disqualified for impeding.  In the Women’s 500m Final A, Alyson Dudek led the entire way followed by Lana Gehring and Kimberly Derrick.

 

Now, let’s get into the details of the races.

 

Nothing special in Men’s 1500m Semi 1 and 2.  In Semi #3, Lobello made an inside pass on Jordan at the start of the last lap.  As they exited the corner, Jordan made his inside pass back at Lobello, BUT at the same time Ryan Bedford tried to go on the inside too but his right thigh pushed against Malone’s left hip and fell on the straight away. 

 

In the Men’s 1500m Final A, there was a lot of passing between the skaters.  At the start of the last lap, JR Celski had a commanding lead with Jordan Malone and Apolo Ohno trailing behind.  Seriously though, JR Celski was hauling ASS.  I think Ohno made his move too late by waiting too long.  JR was already in first with 5 laps to go and he just held it there.  He was still able to get Jordan Malone at the line for second. 

 

For the Women’s 1500m Final A, Alyson Dudek leaned back and fell at the end of lap seven.  Then Reutter, Baver, Smith and Derrick just took off with Lana Gehring trailing in the back.  At the last lap, Smith had her third placed locked in until Derrick went into the corner wide and took Smith on the inside for third place.  Reutter couldn’t be touched for first. 

 

For the 500m races, it was drama drama drama

 

For the women’s A Final, the race was restarted after Reutter fell after three to four steps.  Based on the video I took, it didn’t look like she had made contact with Lana Gehring but I guess the ref felt otherwise.  With the race restarted, Alyson Dudek just sprinted off the line and simply was not challenged.  She clearly is USA’s 500m specialist.  After about two laps, Katherine Reutter got super low in that 500m, but booted out on her left giving her a chance to taste the hard pads we have here at the rink.  I asked her how they felt today at practice today and she said it was super hard.  Definitely not what she’s use to in Salt Lake

 

In the men’s C final, Jordan Malone toed in on his third step.  After 3 laps, Chris Creveling made an inside pass on Robert Lawrence catching him off guard.  Then as Lawrence tried to push with his left skate, the skate knocked his right skate causing him to slip.  Once Lawrence slipped, he flew in MID-AIR doing not just a 360, but a 540 degree spin and slammed into the pads.  Right after this, Eddy Alvarez went into the corner, lost control and fell himself leaving Creveling as the lone skater.  Jordan Malone was actually VERY close to catching up to him..haha.

 

In the B Final, Travis Jayner took off from the line followed by Bedford and Leveille.  I swear Bedford kept on doing two into the corners at every corner trying to gain speed.  At the start of the last lap as Jayner was entering the corner, he toed in and tried to compensate with his right foot.  At the same time, Bedford tried to make an inside pass on Jayner, but Jayner was already in the process of falling.  They both went down and slammed into the pads.  Leveille just stopped skating and crossed through the line.

 

For the Men’s Final A in the 500m, it was ALL JEFF SIMON.  He gunned for the apex with Cho, Ohno and Celski behind.  After about 2 laps, Simon Cho went into the corner deep and Ohno went in SUPER tight to take the second position away from Cho.  Cho CLEARLY did not see this coming and was totally surprised.  On the last lap with Jeff Simon still leading, JR Celski had so much speed that he attempted to make an inside pass on both Cho and Ohno.  He was able to make the pass on Cho but impeded against Ohno.  That caused a chain reaction causing Ohno to push Jeff’s hip, which in turn caused Jeff to fall.  Jeff was SO CLOSE.  That was HIS RACE and screwed.  He was GOING TO WIN IT.  As Jeff fell, Ohno threw his hands up in the air as if he was asking what was going on.  JR was close behind him.  BUT Simon Cho exited the last corner SUPER tight and snatched first place!  It was an utter SHOCK.  There was no whistle and there was no gun.  So when Simon crossed the line, he had won the 500m Final with Ohno in second and Jeff third.  JR was DQ’d for impeding.  The crowd went wild and Cho definitely was happy.

 

*UPDATE*

I forgot to add this but I want to give another shout out to Robert Lawrence!  In the men’s 500m Heat 4, Jordan Malone fell as he exited the corner.  The fall caused Lawrence to fall as well, but he was literally PIVOTING on his LEFT KNEE before he got his right blade back on the ice.  He immediately got back into the race but lost significant speed, with Levielle flying back him for the second qualifying spot!

 

Today is rest day and I had a chance to get on the ice with some of the skaters.  A lot of them were reviewing my video to see what they needed to correct.  The 1000m and second 1500m are tomorrow.  At the end of tomorrow, we will know first hand which skater will be on the team to be sent to the World Cups to qualify for Olympics.

 

Update 9/9/2009

First day of competition has finished.  Skaters had to skate a nine lap time trial to determine top 16 positions and then a four lap time trial to determine seeding and heat placements. 

 

The biggest accomplishment of the day was JR Celski’s nine lap time trial!  He posted a 1:23:981!  The current World Record in the 1000m is held by Charles Hamelin of Canada at 1:23:454 set in Montreal January of this year This was more than half a second faster than Ohno at 1:24:500.  JR can possibly set the new Junior World Record if he skates World Juniors in Taiwan next year, but if he makes the team then he most likely won’t.  Jordan Malone came in third.

 

Katherine Reutter came in at 1:30:306 and was able to hold off Kimberly Derrick at 1:31:344.  Alyson Dudek came in third at 1:31:560.

 

Top three winners of the 9 lap time trials are:

Men: JR Celski 1:23:981, Apolo Ohno 1:24:500, Jordan Malone 1:25:259

Women: Katherine Reutter 1:30:306, Kimberly Derrick 1:31:344, Alyson Dudek 1:31:560

 

Interesting tidbit.  Katherine Reutter came in 17th place at the 2006 Trials.  Then she got #1 spot in the 9 lappers yesterday.  Four years well spent I must say.

 

In the men’s 4 lap time trial, things heated up even more.  Jordan Malone was flying through his laps and came in at 37.124.  JR Celski came in a CLOSE second at 37.127.  We’re talking the difference of 0.003 seconds!  Both Jordan and JR are not normally sprinters either.  They both were super surprised at their times.  Anthony Lobello came in third at 37.179.

 

In the women’s 4 lap time trial, Alyson Dudek showcased her talent as being the young sprinter she is at 39.798, followed by Kimberly Derrick at 40.270 and Katherine Reutter at 40.312.

 

So far in the points standings, JR Celski leads the way with 1800 points followed by Jordan Malone at 1640, and Ohno in third with 1312.

Katherine Reutter and Alyson Dudek are both tied at 1640 each with Kimberly Derrick at 1600 and Lana Gehring at 1024.  Congratulations to all the skaters that made the cut off.  Still PLENTY of racing going on today for the 1500m (1) and 500m (1). 

 

Some side comments about the time trials yesterday:

During the event, there were some hiccups for some skaters.  Zach Fuller fell during his time trial and for some reason Walter Rusk I guess got confused during the finish.  Both were allowed to reskate their time trials, but did not affect the overall top 16 standings for the men.

 

I just have to give a shout out to Robert Lawrence.  He fell on the start of his time trial after his THIRD step by toeing in.  He was still able to do a 1:27:926 and make top 16!  MAD PROPS. 

 

During Jeff Simon’s 4 lap time trial, for some reason Jeff stopped skating and complained that someone had blown a whistle.  I had talked other skaters and they ALSO confirmed hearing of this whistle.  He abruptly stopped skating while Joey Lindsey continued to power on.  After the time trial, Jeff immediately talked to the head referee to make a request to do a reskate.  AT first, Jeff was disqualified for skating off track, but in the end, he was given the chance to do his reskate

 

There is one more thing I have to say before I close this blog entry.  Please keep in mind that while I DO tweet LIVE and update results as fast as I can, there will be some errors given the speed at which I’m working.  So I’ll make this VERY CLEAR right now:  ALL results that I post are UNOFFICIAL.

 

Update 9/8/2009

Women’s 4 lap time trial Unofficial

Men’s 4 lap time trial Unofficial

Women’s 9 Lap Time Trial Unofficial

Men’s 9 Lap Time Trial Unofficial

 

Official 9 lap times from GoldRushSkate.com

Women

Men

 

Update 9/7/2009

 

Time Trial draws are up for tomorrow!

 

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9/7/2009

 

Hello all.  It’s that time again.  I’m currently in Marquette, Michigan covering the US Short Track Team Trials.  Before the races start tomorrow, I felt it was best to actually explain to my audience how the selection process works.

 

Here in the United States, we are selecting five women and five men for our team.  We do things a little differently here versus Canada.  In Canada, skaters that participated in their trials were invited to skate.  Here in the states, all skaters needed to meet a specific time cut off to be eligible to enter the US Trials.  Skaters need to skate either a nine lap time trial or a 1000m mass start race under a specific time.  For the men, the cut off time was one minute and 30 seconds.  The women were one minute and thirty eight seconds. 

 

From December 2007 until the Desert Classic race two weeks ago, all times during officially sanctioned US Speedskating meets were eligible to be used for US Trials entry.  There are no invites, no special exceptions, NOTHING.  ALL skaters are required to meet their cut of times. 

 

Tomorrow, all skaters will be skating a nine lap time trial.  It’s basically going to be a pair of skaters trying to skate their fastest nine laps.  The purpose of the time trials is to essentially weed out the weak skaters.  Pardon my language, but this is reality.  The time trials will separate the men from the boys or the women from the girls.  Only the TOP 16 fastest times from each gender will actually be entered to skate US Trials. 

 

Please bear in mind that there is NO MINIMUM time requirement during the time trials tomorrow.  Hell, skaters could skate a five minute nine lap time trial if they wanted (It would be dumb but yeah it’s the truth).  Only top 16 fastest times will be selected.  All the other skaters that didn’t make it will pretty much be done and can basically go home after that. 

 

After the nine lap time trials, 16 men and 16 women will be selected to actually race US Trials.  From there, eligible skaters skating US Trials will do a four lap time trial.  This four lap time trial will determine the seeding and make up the draws for the heats for all distances. 

 

Here in the US, there are NO BYES.  There is no committee that selects the fifth spot.   ALL skaters will have to race to get their spot on the team.  There are no special exceptions.  Either you MAKE IT, or you DON’T.  The ONLY ONE exception to this rule and that is the medical bye.  Skaters will be required to show proof of their injury from a doctor, and at anytime US Speedskating may request their own independent evaluation.

 

If a skater has a medical bye, that specific skater will only have a bye for a specific distance if they were a medal contender.  At which point, US Speedskating will have a skate-off to determine if the medical bye skater is good enough to earn their spot for that specific distance.  This means that if the skater wins the skate-off, they can only skate ONE distance and nothing else.  In any case, skaters WILL have to skate to prove their capabilities even with a medical bye.  There is no medical bye and then BAM straight to the selected team. Make no mistake skaters will have to earn their spots as I have repeatedly mentioned. 

 

I will be tweeting LIVE at the event with updated time trial times the SECOND they are announced at REAL time =).  Please make sure you join my twitter for up-to-minute results.  I will also have a PDF with time trial times for each skater.  This PDF will be updated REAL time as well.  I will post the PDF link here on this blog at the top.

 

 

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